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Getting Help the Free Software (and Open Source) Way
By: Norbert 'Gnorb' Cartagena
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    2003-10-09


    Table of Contents:
  • Getting Help the Free Software (and Open Source) Way
  • What You Should Know Before You Get Started
  • Newsgroups
  • Mailing Lists
  • IRC Channels
  • Putting it All Together

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    Getting Help the Free Software (and Open Source) Way - IRC Channels
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    Finally, we reach what is perhaps the fastest way to gather live information online: IRC channels. If you've followed the links, you may have noticed that many of the pages listed in the Mailing Lists section also mentioned IRC channels.

    With that in mind, I found it interesting that, when writing this story, I ran into the following message, posted to the ufra.lists.php newsgroup in 1998:

    “There are probably quite a few people who use IRC and also PHP.  Many do not have time for the relatively inefficient mechanism it provides. Things tend to end up in useless and unproductive chatter back and forth. And even for the people who can get beyond that, chances are that if they are on IRC then they are on different networks.  Undernet is just one of many.  I, for example, when I am on IRC am always on EFNet, or sometimes on IRCnet.  A PHP channel on Undernet doesn't help me very much.”

    While the PHP/IRC correlation might not be accurate anymore, what about the rest of the statement? If this is true, then who in their right minds would choose IRC? Can you actually get your tasks done this way? Well, that depends on both your need and how you like to work. The author is right when he points out that things end up in chatter back and forth. But is it all unproductive? It's been my experience that, as far as hard-core programming goes, chat channels are usually not the best places to go. This is not the case with administration and maintenance, which I find, are best benefited by the use of these lists.

    The writer of this message points out three well known IRC servers: IRCnet (irc.ircnet.org), Undernet (irc.undernet.org), and EFNet (irc.efnet.org). If you know anything about IRC, however, then you realize that these contain within them thousands of individual, active chat channels for you to carouse through. In fact, when I fire up my favorite IRC client (X-Chat), I get a listing of 63 chat servers right off the bat, not to mention the channels to be found within them! So much for quick answers, right?

    Well, like in the previous categories, it's simply a matter of finding the right chat servers and channels to tap for information. I've compiled a list of servers and channels which I believe you'll find useful. Like before, if I don't list what you're looking for, then go ahead and search the servers. If you find something that you thing would be of interest to other readers, I invite you to post it on the DevShed.com message boards. By the way, if you've never used IRC before, or are have questionable skills, check out the IRC home page at http://www.irc.net, which just so happens to be partly sponsored DevShed.

    The following is a list of links (in no particular order) to some of the biggest servers out there. Remember that if you want to check out their website, you'll need to change the irc.servername.org into www.servername.org.

    • irc.Undernet.org
    • irc.Freenode.net
    • irc.EFnet.org
    • irc.DAL.net
    • irc.IRCnet.net 

    On most of these, you can safely type #<subject> (where <subject> is your subject, such as #linux, #cocoon, or #python) and expect to find a channel dedicated to the subject. If you can't, then go ahead and do a search for the channels on the server, although a faster way would probably be to search on Google.com for <subject> IRC channel. Chances are that you'll find the channel you're looking for within the first ten links.

    As a related side note, while writing this story, I ran into the list of one-hundred most popular IRC channels, accessible at http://searchirc.com/top100.php. Not one of them had anything to do with development or, surprisingly enough, Open Source software. Free software was represented, but only if you count warez (illegally acquired and distributed commercial software). Note that Free Software, as in the case of GNU, and free software, as in pirated commercial programs, or warez,  are not by any means the same thing. Heck, they're not even in the same ideological park.



     
     
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